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CICERO

DE. ORATORE II

A. S. WILKINS

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1 MAGNA nobis pueris, Quinte frater, si memoria tenes, opinio 1 fuit L. Crassum non plus attigisse doctrinae, quam quantum

prima illa puerili institutione potuisset; M. autem Antonium omnino omnis eruditionis expertem atque ignarum fuisse; erantque multi qui, quamquam non ita se rem habere arbitrarentur, 5 tamen, quo facilius nos incensos studio discendi a doctrina

$$ 1-11. Cicero explains that Crassus aut similis significatio.' It is of course and Antonius were by no means so deficient not unusual to find quamquam with conj. in learning as was commonly supposed ; and in silver-age writers. Cp. Roby, § 1697. argues that eloquence, such as they possessed, Dräger, Hist. Synt. ii. 737-9. So Kühner, could never have been acquired without a ii. p. 957. For an instance where the conwide range of learning. He expresses his junctive, if defensible at all, must be deintention of giving in their words a treatise fended as here, cp. iii. 7. 27 with the note. on oratory based on greater practical expe Of the five passages quoted by Zumpt, rience than that possessed by previous writers, $ 574, only one is allowed to stand by good 1. nobis pueris, abl. not dat.

editors : Tusc. v. 30.85 'quamquam enim 2. attigisse, 'had dabbled in :'

cp. pro sint in quibusdam malis '=' although they Arch. 8. 17 'quod si ipsi haec neque

at should be in some troubles.' In de Off. i. tingere neque sensu nostro gustare posse 2. 6, Baiter and Holden read • quamquam mus:' so above, i. 18. 82; 19. 87.

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Mur. 9.20, Halm and Kayser 3. illa, ‘in those days,' before Greek have 'quamquam loquor' [but cp. Heitliterature was included in the ordinary land's note]: for de Fin. iii. 21. 70 see curriculum for boys. The strong language Madvig ad loc. For his fifth example of Cicero (pro Arch. 3. 5) as to the ex Zumpt gives a false reference. He is in tended study of Greek refers to a some error in saying that it is found only in what later date than the boyhood of these passages. We may add Tusc. i. 45. Crassus and Antonius. Cp. Gallus ii3. 75-. 109; de Leg. iii. 8. 18; Brut. 2. 8; Phil. 6: the English abridgment follows the vi. 1. 3 (with King's note). It is better erroneous view of earlier editions.

to regard this instance as one of simple 5. arbitrarentur: the conj. does not attraction than as a conj. coniecturalis' depend upon quamquam directly, but with Adler—' although they might not the verb is attracted into the mood of prae think. Cp. Madvig, $ 361, obs. 3. dicarent. Cp. phrases like quod diceret, 6. incensos studio: cp. de Rep. i. 22. Roby, $ 1746. Madvig on de Fin. iii. 70 36, where Scipio says 'peto a vobis ut sic writes .non dubito quin Cicero nunquam me audiatis neque ut omnino expertem in recta oratione particulae quamquam in Graecarum rerum, neque ut eas nostris protasi coniunctivum subiecerit, nisi ubi anteponentem, sed ut unum e togatis; aliqua lateret potentialis, condicionalisve patris diligentia non illiberaliter institu

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