man of those who serv'd on the Trial of the Seven Bishops committed to the Tower by K. James II., and being the junior Juryman, he was the first that declared them Not Guilty. And when 7 were found of a different opinion, he, by the strength and honesty of his arguments, brought them over to his own sentiments; and by this Firmness in the Course of Justice and Liberty, he may be said to have fix'd the Basis of a Work which stemmed the torrent of Popery and slavery, and was the Foundation of the present happy Constitution." So famous a juryman deserves to be better known.

Leigh, Lancashire.

W. D. PINK.

"SUP SORROW BY SPOONSful.” - I have frequently heard this expression used in Liverpool, with a sense of meaning that the person to whom it is addressed will have a great deal of trouble, which will not come all at once, but bit by bit, or sup by sup. It is, I think, worth recording.

Liverpool.

AN OLD SONG.

J. COOPER MORLEY.

MR. MADAN'S reference to John Bull's Manor of Great Britain, 1816 (ante p. 241), reminds me of a song which was very popular during the time of the great war with Napoleon I. My father knew the whole of it, but did not commit it to writing, and I have never been able to meet with it since his death, either in a printed or manuscript form. It began by describing Bonaparte, "the Corsican," whom it spoke of as consul, not emperor-set forth his conquests, and went on to speak of his desire to possess England,

"That little fruitful spot of ground John Bull had clapped his hand on." These are the only two lines which I can call to mind, but my childish memory assures me, although I have certainly not heard it for five-and-thirty years, that it was a by no means contemptible effusion. If any reader of "N. & Q." possesses a copy, or has it in his memory, it would be well to have it embalmed in your pages. K. P. D. E.

"THE QUESTION STATED."-I have just come across the following cutting among a lot of old newspaper scraps of sixty years ago. It touches upon the burning question which is at present being agitated:

LORD BROUGHAM'S PEDIGREE.--It is generally believed that Lord Brougham's claim of descent from the De Burghams on the one side and the noble family of Vaux on the other was merely one of his many crotchets. Campbell treats it as such, and goes to the trouble of showing that the Chancellor's real ancestors were yeomen and cattle dealers. I find, however, that there is a difference of opinion on the subject, and, as Lord Campbell has not the reputation of being a very careful authority, I should be glad if any of the readers of "N. & Q." would throw some light on

the matter.

Athenæum, Glasgow.

J. A. WESTWOOD OLIVER.

KNIGHTHOOD CONFERRED BY THE LORD LIEUTTENANT OF IRELAND.-In the Gentleman's Magazine for February, 1822 (vol. 92, pt. i. 172), it is stated that the opinion of the Attorney General and Solicitor General had been taken as to whether the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland had power to confer the honour of knighthood, and that both legal gentlemen were decidedly of opinion that since the Union no such right had existed. Then follow the names of thirteen gentlemen knighted by different Lord Lieutenants since the Union, but whose honours were thus said to be null and void. What was afterwards done in this matter? Was this legal opinion ever rescinded? If I mistake not, the honour has been several times conferred by Lord Lieutenants since. W. D. PINK.

Leigh, Lancashire.

the annual horse fair held at Wibsey, near BradWIBSEY FAIR CHARTER.-According to tradition ford, in Yorkshire, is a chartered fair, but nothing is known of the existence of the charter. Will any correspondent kindly tell me the most likely place to search for the record of the granting of the charter, or for evidence of its having existed? I may say the fair is a very old one, but nothing is known, I believe, as to the date of its origin. GATHORN ORMONDROYD, Wibsey, near Bradford, Yorkshire.

GODSTONE.-This village was formerly called Wolkenstede, which, I presume, means the place of clouds, though it is difficult to know why it

should have been so called, unless it was that the mists in the line of valley below, where the SouthEastern Railway now runs, were especially well seen from there. But why was the name changed to Godstone? Manning and Bray (History of Surrey) avow ignorance of the reason, only suggesting that it may be connected with the stone quarry in the neighbourhood. If so, probably the first syllable is equivalent to good," and perhaps Godstone may have superseded Wolkenstede as the name of the whole village, as "Good Hope" superseded "stormy" at the Cape. But is there anything to confirm this?

Blackheath.

W. T. LYNN.

THE WILLET ESTATE.-In 1825, or thereabouts, the Willet estate was left to heirs living in America on condition of their removing to England; but family circumstances preventing the removal, to whom did the property revert? The family was allied by marriage to the Booths of London. QUESTOR.

LORD DRUMREANY.-The Gentleman's Magazine for January, 1801, at p. 88, records the death at Drumreany, co. Westmeath, aged seventy-five, of "Maurice Dillon, Baron Drumreany, a Roman Catholic Peer." As I can find no such title in any of the existing peerages, I suspect that there is a blunder in the above entry. Can any of your readers solve the mystery for me?

E. WALFORD, M.A.

Hampstead, N.W. [Drumrany was the chief seat of the Dillons, Viscounts Dillon.]

BOCCACCIO'S "IL DECAMERON."-What is the value of the small quarto illustrated edition of the above (in good condition), published at Florence in 1573? Is the small octavo Amsterdam edition of 1665 of any value? C. S. K. Kensington, W.

QUEEN CAROLINE AND THE SCOTTISH DAIRYMAID.—Where shall I find "the tale of the interview of the Scottish dairymaid with Queen Caroline," incidentally mentioned in a letter of Dr. Newman's, dated October 29th, 1875, prefixed to Keble's Occasional Papers and Reviews, London, 1877 ? J. MANUEL.

Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

TALK-O'-TH-HILL.-This is the name of a little place in Staffordshire. Why was it so called? J. COOPER MORLEY. Liverpool.

BAGNAL OR BAGENAL FAMILY.-I should be glad to receive any information concerning this family. They have been located in Staffordshire, Wales, and various parts of Ireland, viz., Carlow, Down, and West Meath. J. H. BAGNALL.

GOADBY FAMILY.-Can you give me any information relating to the history of this family? W. M. GOADBY.

New York.

Dunford, of Great Newport Street, published a fine mezzotinto of William Shakspeare," Engraved by C. Turner from the newly discovered Picture painted from the life now in the possession of the and a statement that it is the "First Proof from Publisher." My copy has J. Dunford's signature Plate." I do not find the picture mentioned anywhere. Can you say if it is known, and in whose possession it now is, or to whom I should apply for information as to the picture being genuine or otherwise? SAMUEL TUCKER.

A PORTRAIT OF SHAKSPEARE.-In 1815 James

CHARLES WESLEY.-There are, I believe, four biographers of Charles Wesley. It is stated that only one of them mentions the fact that he was baptized or immersed in a river in Lincolnshire when a young man. Who, then, is the biographer in question? A NEW REAder.

JENNET.-This word occurs twice in a paragraph of the Times under the head of Ireland (August 11):—

"A servant of Mr. R. W. Studdert, J.P., was proceeding in a cart from the railway station, and was met revolvers, who shot the jennet dead under the cart. The by two men with faces blackened and armed with shooting of the jennet, they said, was only a foretaste of the fate they intended for his master."

Is the word jennet still in common use? It formerly meant a small Spanish horse, and was spelt either jennet or gennet, but the word is not Spanish, and I am unable to trace the origin of it. W. D. PARISH.

[See Webster's and Ogilvie's Dictionaries.] THE WORD "RAILWAY."-I had fancied, in my ignorance, that this word did not come into use until George Stephenson was about to run his first locomotive upon a railway, which was, I believe, somewhere about the year 1825. But I have an old map of the environs of London, published in London* in the year 1817, and in this there is marked what is called an iron railway," running from Croydon, or a little beyond, to within a short distance of Merstham. What was this?

Sydenham Hill,

F. CHANCE.

"CARRIAGE" FOR BAGGAGE.-In the Authorized Version of the Bible, the word carriage is thrice used for that which is carried, viz, twice in 1 Sam. xvii. 22, "David left his carriage in the Acts xxi. 15, "We took up our carriages." In hand of the keeper of the carriage," and again,

At the bottom of this map stands, " Published Jan. 1, 1817, by R. Rowe, No. 19, Bedford Street, Bedford Row.'

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of his college. But the entries in the college books show distinctly that he employed architect. For instance, under the year 1575 we find the following :

"Porta, quæ honoris dicitur et ad scholas publicas, a lapide quadrato duroque extruebatur, ad eam scilicet formam et effigiem, quam Doctor Caius, dum viveret, architecto præscripserat, elaborata."

Dr. Caius died in 1573, and in that year his executors set up his monument at the cost of 741. 4s. 8d. Of this sum 331. 16s. 5d. was paid to the architect, mentioned as Theodore," and others for carving, the remainder going for material

and labour.

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This architect was 66 Theodorus Haveus Cleviensis, artifex egregius, et insignis architecturæ professor," thus described in 1576 in the college books, on the occasion of his setting up in the college hall a column with sixty sun-dials and the arms of all the members then in the college upon it. This column does not now exist, but it may be incidentally mentioned that the erection of such a memorial was not uncommon in the latter part of the sixteenth century. John Thorpe set up two great pyramids in the hall of Holdenby House, Northamptonshire, which were covered with the armorial bearings of the families in the county. Portions of them may still be seen in the garden of the "restored" fragment of this once magnificent palace, and they are marked on the plan of Holdenby in Thorpe's volume in the Soane Museum. Similarly at Kelburne House, in Ayrshire, the seat of the Earl of Glasgow, is a pyramidal pillar of the same period, decorated with sixty sun-dials.

With further regard to the idea that Dr. Caius and John Thorpe, or John of Padua, were the same individual, or, indeed, that Dr. Caius acted in any way as his own architect, it may be borne in mind that Walpole published documentary evidences-some of which have been quoted above -which prove quite the reverse, as long ago as 1762, and he also called attention, in his Anecdotes of Painting, to a portrait at Caius College, in the following words :

"And in the same room hangs an old picture (bad at first, and now almost effaced by cleaning) of a man in a slashed doublet, dark curled hair and beard, looking like a foreigner, and holding a pair of compasses, and by his side a Polyhedron, composed of twelve pentagons. This is undoubtedly Theodore Haveus himself, who, from all these circumstances, seems to have been an architect, sculptor, and painter, and having worked many years for Dr. Caius and the college, in gratitude left behind him his own picture."

The following extracts from letters among the Cole MSS. in the British Museum show that there was no doubt about Dr. Caius' action at his college in the minds of antiquaries of eminence in Walpole's time :

April 8 1778-M. Lort to W. Cole.-Sir Joseph

Ayloffe thinks the architect that erected Anne of Cleves' tomb was the same that Dr. Caius employed to build his still preserved in the college......I wish Tyson would college at Cambridge, and whose picture is said to be sketch and etch it."

In a letter two months later Lort says to Cole, of the old architect at Caius, and also to Sir "Mr. Tyson showed me a drawing he had made Joseph Ayloffe, who was much pleased with it.” It was, of course, not to be expected that such authorities as these, all Cambridge men, would have confused Dr. Caius and Theodorus Haveus and superadded John of Padua, the conception of such an anomaly having been reserved for the more speculative minds of the nineteenth century.

With respect to MR. SCOTT's statement (ante, p. 238) that "the canopied tomb of the celebrated Lord Burleigh" is at Hatfield, it may be convenient to mention that Lord Burghley is buried in the church of Stamford-Baron, Stamford. He died at Theobalds, Aug. 4, 1599, and two funerals took place, one at Westminster and the other at Stamford, nor was it exactly known at the time This latter fact is, however, where the body was. now sufficiently established by the inscription on a coped-stone sarcophagus of rude workmanship in the crypt beneath the monument in the church of Stamford-Baron: "Gvlielmvs Cecil Baron de Bvrghley Eqves Avratvs Magnvs Angliæ Thesavrarivs jacet svb hoc tvmvlo obiitqve qvarto die Avgvsti Anno Domini 1599."

The

Lord Burghley's noble canopied tomb of alabaster, "touch," and other marbles, exhibits the effigy in a magnificent suit of armour, such as, perhaps, Lord Burghley never actually wore. monument is in all probability the work of Maximilian Powtran and John de Critz, the artists of the tomb of Queen Elizabeth; its resemblance to this monument, as well as to that of. Mary Queen of Scots, is certainly very marked.

The canopied tomb at Hatfield, alluded to by MR. SCOTT, is that of Robert, first Earl of Salisbury, younger son of Lord Burghley, and High Treasurer of England, who died in 1612.

It is improbable that John Thorpe was living so late as 1612, and, inasmuch as Robert Lord Salisbury did not exchange Theobalds with James L. for Hatfield until 1607, and did not begin to build Hatfield House until 1608, or finish it until 1611, it is very unlikely that he would also have set up his own monument at Hatfield in his lifetime, or, in fact, have employed John Thorpe in any way whatever. his History of Hertfordshire, says, "The whole of this monument [that of Robert Earl of Salisbury], which is the work of a Florentine artist, 18 executed in marble," a clear statement, which it may fairly be presumed so careful an historian would not have made except upon full and sufficient grounds; and it may be added that the

Moreover, Clutterbuck, in